God is always the answer,when we call on him he will never let us down. Mary
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From: Scott Kuehne <scottdavidkuehne@yahoo.com>
To: 4XONTARIO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 10:09 am
Subject: Re: [4XONTARIO] War of the World
Indeed the higher power must be trusted and relied upon to save us from ourselves. Men without a higher power live selfishly at other peoples expense. My higher power instructs me against this evil and shows me the way forward, the truth about my own selfishness and how to live in a manner pleasing to Him. I once suggested putting your faith in your fellow man but now I realize the folly of this. It is only by putting faith in the unfailing God that we can be confident and have hope for a better tomorrow.
The big problem with socialism is that it tries to be a higher power righting the wrongs of man even though it is comprised of men who also do wrong. Since it is simply a group of men trying to play God it always fails.
-- On Fri, 5/28/10, Sam <cci2fx@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Sam <cci2fx@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [4XONTARIO] War of the World
To: 4XONTARIO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 3:21 PM
The rich have a history of taking advantage of the poor in depriving them the education they needed, extracting from their cheap labor and natural resources and in return giving penny for their dollar. As a consequences, we then blame them for the state that they are in. If nothing is being done by some higher power, the poor would even be deprive of some basic education so needed to empower them. I agree with you that the poor would always be here but there are also factors that has oppressed them into those condition shouldn't be overlooked.
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From: Derrik
To: 4XONTARIO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [4XONTARIO] War of the World
Sam,
I see two problems here: first, I do not think it is the rich's responsibility to take care of all of the poor. There are those that are poor because they cannot physically or psychologically work. Then there are those that are poor because they are lazy and 'want' society to take care of them. I do not think rewarding this group of people is the responsibity of the rich. If you cannot work then there should be programs but if you don't WANT to work then you should suffer thru your existence until your mindset changes.
Second thing is this: if you have a rich person and strip them of their wealth they will rise again and some day be rich again. If you have a poor person and give them wealth they will squander it and some day be poor again. Being wealthy is a state of mind and those that have it will make it happen again and again. It is 'almost' a sociological certainty.
Derrik
On May 27, 2010, at 10:11 PM, "Sam" <cci2fx@gmail.com> wrote:
I see the root problem here is greed. The rich, if they would have known their responsibility, should have taken care of the poor around them. When the poor are not taken care of, they would band together and rise up because they are the majority and have the vote. The poor then will rise into power and strip the wealth from the rich and redistribute them. But the problem is only temporal. The then poor will now become rich and they too are greedy not much different from the prior rich man and thus the cycles goes on and on.
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From: mmburton02@aol.com
To: 4XONTARIO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [4XONTARIO] War of the World
Thanks for sharing this information, Mary
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From: Seeni J G <seenijg@gmail.com>
To: seenijg@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 11:28 am
Subject: [4XONTARIO] War of the World
"Pentagon resources and U.S. troops may be used if needed to quell protests
and bank runs during an economic crisis, the U.S. Army War College's
Strategic Institute reported. 'Widespread civil violence inside the United
States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in
extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security,' the War College
study states. Incidents of economic collapse, terrorism and disruption of
legal order could require deployment of forces within the US, it said. A
'strategic shock' could require the nation to use 'military force against
hostile groups inside the United States.'"
"International Monetary Fund Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn has
warned that advanced nations could face civil unrest during distressful
economic times. '[S]ocial unrest may happen in many countries – including
advanced economies' if the economic crises are not properly dealt with,
Strauss-Kahn said. 'He added that violent protests could break out in
countries worldwide if the financial system was not restructured to benefit
everyone rather than a small elite,' London's Guardian reported."
What is particularly telling in the above stories is that the managing
director of the IMF, a notoriously elitist banking organization, admitted
that our current financial system only benefits a "small elite." For those
that believe that the US Army War College's Strategic Institute's report of
future civil conflict inside the US is far-fetched, you must realize that
the bankers already KNOW that their current plan of destroying monetary
value in all major global currencies will cause the middle class of Western
nations to migrate into the ranks of the poor. The bankers already know that
massive civil unrest all around the world is inevitable given the course
they have chosen for all of us. The bankers are ALREADY CLOSELY MONITORING
the situations in Greece, Thailand, Portugal, Iceland, Ireland, and other
countries to understand how they must react to it when it hits the shores of
the Western world. And because the bankers already know that their policies
ensure uprisings in Western nations in future years, they are planning for
it right now, six or seven steps ahead of the sleeping masses of people.
Will the people wake up, or will it be checkmate already by the time they
do?
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